Device Of A Down’s 2nd album, 2001’s Toxicity, grew to become them into one in all The united states’s largest – and maximum ingenious – steel bands. Because the band ready to unencumber the album, Steel Hammer joined them of their fatherland of Los Angeles to get the tale at the back of the album that might usher steel into the twenty first century.
They do issues another way in California, they in reality do. Instance: in case you’re in a band, you’ll know what practice session rooms are like. Pokey, damp, ill-fitted with probably deadly apparatus – usually squalid little cubbyholes the place the whole thing appears like shit except you flip it as much as eek ranges. Device Of A Down’s practice session room – known as ‘The Alley’ and positioned on a in particular nameless low-rent hippiefied nook of North Hollywood – is just a little other. Possibly it’s the rainforest vibe you get as you stroll in. Or the partitions plastered with expensive-looking rock’n’roll arcana. Or the elephant tusk that passes for a door care for. Or the oak panelling and the Harley storage subsequent door, and the packing containers of spanking-new tools, and the truth it in reality seems like someplace you need to stick for longer than essential.
The 4 fascinating lunatics who make up SOAD step by step clear out in. Exchanging backslaps and dope pipes with their highway group for his or her first practice session since recording their 2nd album Toxicity, you’ll be able to sense a tangible anticipation floating across the air con that the muso-environs most effective stoke additional. It’s arduous to familiarize yourself with the sense of drawing close explosion – SOAD are a band for whom obviously the whole thing is going on. The CD sampler of Toxicity has been spot-welded to my Walkman for the final week. The primary album nonetheless tears my face off each and every time I’ve let it out of its cage within the final 3 years – it’s simple to put out of your mind what a bomb Device Of A Down was once. And it’s gonna be not possible to disclaim simply what a hollow Toxicity is gonna blow within the material of rock in 2001. Merely put, Device Of A Down are too rattling just right to achieve success, aren’t they? Aren’t they?
“It appears now not,” grins Serj Tankian, Device’s softly spoken vocalist. “The primary album by no means bought, like, 1,000,000 in a single day, had no unmarried on it and it by no means in reality were given a lot airplay. However it’s bought regularly [nearly 900,000 at the time of writing] as other people have came upon about us. It’s great to grasp that individuals are into us for the tune and now not as a result of we’re on TV 24 hours an afternoon.”
Guitarist Daron Malakian has his personal idea. “On the time the album got here out, there wasn’t the pastime in heavy tune there’s at the moment, however we’ve type of are available below other people’s radar: we get advisable to other people by means of phrase of mouth and now not essentially even steel fanatics. I don’t know who the fuck remains to be purchasing the album at the moment, however individuals are – normally individuals who additionally purchase a wide variety of different tune as neatly. And that makes me positive that we’re now not too just right to achieve success. There are many individuals who nonetheless pay attention to tune with out prejudice who’ve were given into the band.”
Shavo Odadjian, the bass goon with a grin that’s offensively fascinating, additionally pipes up. “The primary album, we got here in, we plugged in and performed. I feel that’s what slowly were given to other people, the truth this wasn’t simply any other over-produced, over-long LA rock album. But when we’d all were given our concepts out on that first album, we’d have nowhere to move after that. That’s why Toxicity has been the sort of general excitement to make. And that’s why it’s gonna marvel a large number of other people ’cos it’s simply approach past the primary album.”
“2nd albums are what bands are living or die on,” says Device’s hyper-kinetic drummer, John Dolmayan. “Toxicity is the next move however we nonetheless love taking note of the primary album. It in reality captures how annoyed we have been on the time and the way lengthy we’d waited to be heard. So inevitably it was once all simply snarling shit. In this album we had time to growl ahead of screaming.”

You get this so much with Device. What you simply learn is just a shadow of the way in which they in reality discuss. As you chat with all 4 of them upstairs in The Alley’s chill-out room, you’re floundering on the lookout for a whip and a chair. Speaking over every different in sheer enthusiasm, ripping the piss out of the rest in particular earnest, suffused with in-joke cruelty and coffee lucidity, a Device dialog is extra like a struggle of wits. It’s shot via with an competitive want to go away not anything out; obviously nobody within the band is the ‘chief’, least of all Serj, who turns out content material to let the opposite guys thrash issues out. There’s a different, nearly fraternal constancy they’ve with every different that assists in keeping their dating at the similar free-speaking open floor you sense they’ve had between all of them their lives. However have the ones relationships with every different modified up to now 3 years?
“Completely,” says John. “Whilst you’ve were given any staff of other people confined to one another’s corporate for 3 years on excursion, you in reality do know about the ones other people, perhaps shit you don’t wanna know, perhaps shit that casts them in an entire new mild. Everyone knows that there’s not anything we will be able to conceal from every different to any extent further, ’cos we’ve all noticed how high and low we will be able to move.”
“We’ve fought,” admits Daron. “We’ve in reality fought. In sooner or later one thing can blow up right into a full-scale warfare. There’s been days the place he’s give up the band, he’s give up the band, he’s give up the band, I’ve give up the band. It was once inevitable that traveling for so long as we have now would pressure relationships to the prohibit however on the similar time it’s completely bolstered them.”
“We really feel like brothers now, like a circle of relatives,” says Shavo. “It’s like in case you fuck up with everybody else, you’ve at all times were given your circle of relatives – you don’t make a choice them. That’s how it’s with this band. Even now, sitting right here doing this interview, I believe this power between us. I believe like, ‘Hi there, we’re Device.’ And we will be able to rip every different aside but when somebody from outdoor the band tries it, they’ll need to care for all people. That in reality grew from being in combination such a lot and being on the level of breaking all of it up so ceaselessly. You realise what you’d lose and it makes the bond that a lot more tough.”
Daron provides: “It must imply that we’re much less intense about our tune, extra comfy. If the rest we really feel extra passionate now, much more certain that what we’re doing is correct, much more made up our minds to stick true to our personal schedule and nobody else’s. Other people have put that gang shit on us ahead of, made us out to be some Armenian fucking defense force. That’s simply natural racism, however the reality we’re all Armenian makes us really feel find it irresistible’s us towards the arena, makes us really feel like we belong in combination.”
Ah sure, some of the extra repellent traces of crucial laziness rears its unpleasant head. Since Device shaped within the mid-90s – or even via their signing with Rick Rubin’s Def American in ’97 – they’ve needed to post with a wearisome, head-patting, patronising angle about the truth that all of them come from Armenian backgrounds, even being known as ‘Armenian rock’ (regardless of the fuck that implies).
“What does it imply?” splutters Daron. “Are we enjoying Armenian tune? No! Are we making a song continuously about being Armenian? No! Does it simply imply that positive individuals are so small-minded, so pathetically bigoted that the truth we come from a unique racial background method we have now fucking novelty price? Sure! Jesus!”
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Shavo provides: “We all know what being Armenian method to us. It method a undeniable upbringing, it method the truth that 3 people went to the similar college, it method we have now roots we’re happy with and our roots will at all times affect us in 1,000,000 refined tactics. However to only slap a label on us like that presentations that nobody in reality is aware of the place to place us.”
“In order that they depend on what’s instantly glaring, find it irresistible’s a advertising instrument or one thing,” spits John. “That’s promoting us and our neighborhood brief.”
“It’s principally looking to prohibit what we will be able to do and say,” sighs Serj. “While, if the rest, I feel coming from the place we do, having to struggle the battles we’ve needed to struggle on account of it, has in reality made us much more in a position to peer issues obviously than bands who’re extra simply assimilated into the tune scene.”
Certainly. The place such a lot of US bands have attempted to mine the won cool of an anti-authority shtick (whilst enjoying on and celebrating exactly the worst characteristics of US triumphalism), Device’s political chew turns out if truth be told knowledgeable by means of an ausländer objectivity you’ll be able to’t comic strip out over a couple of energy breakfasts. For instance, Device not too long ago performed a receive advantages to boost $20,000 for the Armenian Nationwide Committee of The united states (ANCA). It’s an organisation that helps regulation in US Congress to formally recognise the Armenian Genocide, the primary genocide of the twentieth century, dedicated by means of an as-yet unrepentant Turkish govt – a central authority the US continues to improve.
On wax, Device care for the political paradoxes and paranoia lately stifling alternate everywhere the arena with a deadly accuracy and ferocious intelligence you haven’t heard for the reason that Lifeless Kennedys. For Daron, the political scope of Device’s tune is the most important but now not all-defining.
“Politics is a part of lifestyles so we replicate that. So are non-public relationships, historical past, love, dope, anger, kindness, society, your circle of relatives, your frame, the whole thing. We’d be mendacity if we left politics out; we’d even be mendacity if we let it dominate. However it doesn’t – it’s simply a part of what we do ’cos what we’re doing is a minimum of expressing who we’re, what we’re, what we wish. And that’s an infinitely complicated factor, of which politics is an crucial section, however most effective part of the whole image.”
Shavo explains: “I feel it’s simply any other factor for other people to be aware of, to make issues more straightforward to care for. And it’s connected in with the truth we’re Armenian: ‘Oh yeah, they’re annoyed about one thing, they’re international, blah, blah.’ Other people within the business in reality can’t care for the truth that we’re the whole thing – they would like us to only be something, fill one area of interest they are able to simply mark off. Fuck that. We’re now not afraid to discuss politics or the rest as long as it’s fair to who we’re.”
Spot on, and it’s right here the place you in reality get started tapping into what makes Device so rattling scarily promising at the moment; what makes Toxicity the sort of mind-blowing detonation of now not simply their very own blueprint however everybody else’s as neatly. The band they remind us maximum of, the band whose demented achieve that Toxicity so eerily remembers, is Jane’s Habit. Now not simply ’cos like them, they appear to surround all of LA’s contradictions, it’s magic and malaise, it’s freedom and it’s sluggish, lingering loss of life. And now not as a result of they sound the rest like Farrell’s freakshow. It’s as a result of, like Jane’s, they’re a band who unmistakably wish to take at the complete international, a band completely resistant – now not simply in angle however in phrase and deed – to rock’s present settling development, tune’s unfathomable willingness to be crow-barred onto a shelf it might probably name house. Like Jane’s, Device are definitive in their time and but someway past it, intent on being shamanic, religious, political, non-public and, essentially, as suggestively complicated as human lifestyles is.

“Once we have been recording Toxicity, we threw the whole thing in, musically as neatly,” says Daron. “There’s all types of influences that may marvel a large number of other people and there’s a struggle of sounds that in reality displays who we’re as other people, how fucked up and huge our tastes are. We’ve opened every different as much as other types of tune and we threw out any more or less bullshit dictas-of-cool after we flawed the songs.”
“Even fucking Morrissey, who I assumed was once the Antichrist, has discovered his approach into our sound!” finds Shavo. “I by no means idea I’d see the fucking day…”
“Says the man into fucking techno!” says Serj. “And he’s calling The Smiths fucking comfortable tune!”
They usually’re off once more. And from this ruckus has come an album of the 12 months. Time to peer it in motion.
Device plug in and play. Excluding they don’t. First they bicker about setlists. Then they bicker in regards to the sound set-up. At no level do you ever get the sensation they’re being severe, simply that that is how they serve as – with honesty all the time, with not one of the energy video games and intellect journeys maximum bands parry round. After which Daron begins enjoying guitar and planets get started bouncing across the room.
‘Terrifyingly just right’ is the one solution to describe what we witness. They open with a protracted, loose-limbed jam that tears down tangents of just about Center Jap abstractions, then pile into faves like DDevil and Sugar with a locked-down vibe that belies the truth that that is their first practice session in months. SOAD are much more staggering when whipping up the textural firestorms of the brand new songs. There’s Jail Music’s pummelling pressure, Needles’ feral fractiousness, the strung-out epic really feel of Chop Suey! and Woodland. This shut up, you’ll be able to see obviously how the dynamics of character and tune paintings on this band.
Daron paints the ceiling; large welters of wah-wah comments and fats blasts of chrome. Shavo propels issues into funk, dub, hardcore, math-rock geometry – any place the music calls for. John assists in keeping the centre, the heart beat from which everybody else can derail, and over all of it are Serj’s freewheeling vocals. Slipping from heartbreaking croon to street-corner loon in a syllable, he breaks syntax aside into demented mutterings, possessed howls, a flood of lyrical and vocal ticks like a muezzin with Tourette’s. It’s a vocal anti-style nearer to unfastened jazz than steel, suggesting that whilst Serj admits he’s essentially the most musically unschooled within the band, he’s the variable that in reality spins Device clear of the predictable, marking them out as one thing in reality distinctive.
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Taking note of the wonderful wreckage this is SOAD at complete tilt at the moment, it’s a must to ask something: how the fuck did they finally end up sounding like this? “By way of going our personal approach,” John finds. “Sounds simple, however in a the town so fucking up its personal ass as LA, it’s one thing you in reality should be devoted to.”
Daron provides: “It’s fascinating what you mentioned about LA previous and about Jane’s Habit, ’cos that’s a band we’d like to be in comparison to. Each and every different band we get in comparison to, I simply don’t get it. I at all times simply assume, ‘Yeah, however we’re other to them on this approach…’ We’re in reality dimly acutely aware of what’s came about in the previous couple of years with steel getting such a success. It simply turns out that, like the rest, it’s all in regards to the lowest commonplace denominators and simplifying shit to stick at the proper facet of your file corporate. It’s now not simply that we received’t do this – we will be able to’t do this ’cos we were given such a lot shit after we have been beginning off, we’re by no means gonna pay attention to it ever once more now we’ve type of made it.”
What sort of factor?
“Don’t growl if you wish to be signed. That was once a just right one. We used to get informed that always. Don’t alternate the pace in a music. Don’t sing about particular topics. Don’t move on degree and not using a ballad up your sleeve. All this bullshit recommendation for see you later. Rising up Armenian in LA is a superb lesson in by no means being taken severely, being condescended to whilst you’re now not encountering outright hostility.”
“We’ve transcended all of that already,” Serj reckons. “However Toxicity is one thing else once more. If we at a loss for words other people first of all, we’re in reality gonna screw with them this time.”
“After a whilst you realise that the reality of what we do isn’t about this,” says Shavo. “It isn’t about interviews or events. It’s about that part hour on degree. Not anything feels find it irresistible, not anything in actual lifestyles comes with regards to it, and we’re all attempting to succeed in it each and every time.”
Daron explains: “For me, what’s essential about Toxicity is that it’s about 40 mins lengthy.”
Why’s that the most important?
“As it suits on one facet of a tape. Since you don’t get part approach via and become bored. Since you don’t become bored. As it’s now not indulgent, it’s an entire piece, it’s concise, it’s thought of, now not simply shat out. I’m ill of musicians pondering they are able to simply cock a leg and shoot out genius. We owe it to the tune that influenced us to check out and be that transparent, that actual, that dedicated. And will I am getting again to my guitar now? It’s calling me.”
He’s nearly frothing on the gob. You’ll be frothing at rather a unique orifice when Toxicity seeps into your lifestyles. SOAD are a band to really feel righteous, obsessed, evangelical about, after approach too lengthy feeling evangelised at. Consider.
Firstly printed in Steel Hammer in September 2001
